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Current athletes right now like carmelo anthony, duwayne wade and talk to them about activism right now and what is the cause of this resurgence really put it into perspective. a lot of times after kaepernick took his knee, the resurgence of the -- etalked to kaepernick's teammates, and we're talking about specifically what kaepernick laid out of his reasons for making a knee. >> and a lot of that was lost because as you said, a lot of the narrative was hijacked away from the specific issues. and i guess that's my question to you and i think the significance of your book is are we going to see...

The narrative of what they are about, so in effect, it really helps the people that they're concerned about. >> definitely. you know, the reason why is because it's not about what the narrative that was created. it's a much bigger issue. specifically what kaepernick pointed out does the police brutali brutality and i'm talking to dwyane wade and he's talking from a personal stand point and watching trayvon martin getting killed. and speaking out after he had seen that because he thought about his sons. and russell westbrook, of why he chose to speak out after terrance was killed in