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Power of the office to obtain an improper personal benefit while ignoring and injuring the national interest. Or acts in ways that are grossly inconsistent with and undermine the separation of powers that is the foundation of our democratic system. Now, these this question of whether president engaged in abuse of power came up before when this congress considered the impeachment of president nixon. And after action was taken, president nixon famously said if the president does it, it is not illegal. And this body rejected that because thats not so. That goes directly contrary to what the found...

Thank you both for your presentations. mr. berke, you are now excused and we will invite mr. goldman to take his place at the witness table. >> mr. chairman. mr. chairman. cl mr. chairman. >> what purposes does the gentleman seek recognition? >> parliamentary inquiry. >> thank you, mr. chairman. pursuant to rule 7b of the house rules the chairman is allowed to administer an oath. not mandated to. but it has been the practice of this committee to administer oaths to witnesses. i'm wondering why we have not ministered the oath in this situation? >> i'm going to administer the oath to the two wit...