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Above it all, it was working for a wall, pugilistic works for mcsally. i feel like the style is on the ballot in arizona. what do you think? >> i think that it also reflects the differenting back grounds of the candidates. kristen started out more left than she is now. she's trying to modulate. mcsally -- >> she used to be a centrist. >> right. everybody is putting on a hat than they're used to wearing. >> the arizona conservatives are the ones that -- she had two seriousish primary challengers. and, look, she won in part because there were two and not one of them. >> arizona is really interes...