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Ties to the hacker group called guardians of peace and was apparently angry about being fired earlier this year. ♪ ♪ trace: well, president obama is dusting off his see e toe pen. the president -- veto pen the president making the comments to npr just as republicans prepare for a complete takeover of congress after democrats' crushing defeat in last month's midterm. >> i haven't used the veto pen very often since i've been in office partly because legislation i objected to was typically blocked in the senate even after republicans took over the house. now i suspect there are going to be so...

White house as soon as he walks into that room. stand by for that. one senator is pretty clear-cut about the possibility of a government shutdown. he says it's a dumb idea. an that senator senator johnny isakson, republican from georgia, joining us right now. senator, thanks very much for coming in. >> good afternoon, wolf. good to be with you. >> so what was a dumb idea? >> well, defunding obama care or shutting down the government was an impossible goal to achieve because most of obama care is mandatory spending and you've got a democratic president with a vote toe pen and senate majority of...

Dumbest idea he has ever heard adding defunding is the affordable care act is not achievable by shutting down the federal government. at some point, you're going to open the federal government back up and barack obama is going to be president. oh, dear. for more, we're joined by the washington editor for the national review, robert costa in washington and political analyst jonathan alter is here with me, the author of "the center holds obama and his enemies." john, this idea of focusing on repealing or defunding the affordable care act, is this all part of john boehner's contention that congre...