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Temperature so that nbc, if it's thinking about bringing him back will do so against a big barrage of bad pr. you know i don't know frankly whether he's coming back or not, but it is clear that he has plenty of enemies within nbc who would like to see him retired at this point. and that's what the toe tality of these leaks is really all about is poisoning the ground so that if nbc was thinking about it they will do so up against a very tall barrier to getting him back in the anchor chair. >> the flip side to that is last week here on the program i had michael wolf on who said he was sure brian...

It's about employment practices, yes. it's about how you recruit, motivate, retain, and promote women and minorities but also about expanding opportunities in underserved communities. it's about fighting, really fighting against the war on women by providing equal access to health care and all of those kinds of issues. so i think you have to measure the president on the toe tality of his record rather than the 15 people sitting around him at a table. >> and to that point, some of the people criticizing this president are some of the people who were behind the most racist voter i.d. laws we hav...