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Watergate. the congressional committees lost. that's worth remembering. the congressional committee has less of an interest, according to the courts, than a criminal trial has in getting access to material covered by executive privilege. >> we are talking about a political world filled with humans. i believe if the mueller team puts together a report to give to the attorney general and they feel somehow by the time it goes through the barr scrub-down and the white house, the part that's refle ub shared doesn't reflect what was found. do you think mueller tries to get the word out? there are a ...

That's something for the courts to work out. there is a compelling interest to say we need the information even if it falls short of what the special counsel considers a crime. even if he does it may not be something he would recommend given the guidelines. congress has to try to go through a narrow corridor. >> it's played out, david. who does that help more politically? >> i don't know. i think the president and his team are going to get credit for fighting the fight, whether it's asserting executive privilege. they also have an interest toing loo for anything in the report that tends to exo...