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It and pervert it. >> is he all of a sudden now the model spokesperson. set token negro of the trump administration. this is ridiculous. and no one should be taking kanye west seriously. he is clearly has issues. >> cnn differs again. our next guest thinks they should be taken off the air. eyes man trophy winner and running back herschel walker joins us now. we were talking in the green room. you saw this panel in your home or where you were watching and you had a human reaction to it. >> well, you know, i was really appalled because i thought it was insulting. i thought it was bullying. i was...

Worried about kanye's effect on the midterm elections than his mental health. >> in addition to the congresswoman, it seems like the harshest criticism is coming from other african-americans. don lemon bringing his late mother into it. cnn said he was a token negro. i haven't heard that phrase in decades. it is rooted in the notion that black people who are for somebody like donald trump, they can't know what they are talking about. they are completely miss informed and they have serious issues and all that. they no longer have a monopoly. the piling on about kanye west, probably doesn't know ...

>> in addition to the congresswoman, it seems like the harshest criticism is coming from other african-americans. don lemon bringing his late mother into it. cnn said he was a token negro. i haven't heard that phrase in decades. it is rooted in the notion that black people who are for somebody like donald trump, they can't know what they are talking about. they are completely miss informed and they have serious issues and all that. they no longer have a monopoly. the piling on about kanye west, probably doesn't know that much more about politics. >> laura: more so than who, matt damon? >> he w...

Alice maria johnson who i had on this program, what a great case for prison reform. doesn't mean that you let people out without paying a price. and he is talking about jobs and talking investment, and talking about manufacturing and factories in america. and safer cities. so you, tell me why that's a problem for some people. >> those are people important to people outside the media bubble, right, sean? kanye was considered poignant and brave truth-teller in 2005 when he said george w. bush doesn't care about black people. so it's funny how that's turned. i don't know how we goat to a place no...

A conservative. go on. >> not in my mind she's not. more to the point which i think is. >> she didn't call him a token negro. she said all of a sudden now he is the token negro for the trump administration. >> talking about him, right. >> now, to charles point about does this president care about minority my personal experience with him in that same oval office without camera present, all he wanted to know about from me what can i do for the hispanic community, i said one thing let's send a tweet and talk about more long-term things we can do. he absolutely care whether the camera is on or off...