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The president's inauguration telling the "washington post" he has been, quote, shocked and stunned by some of the president's rhetoric and that, quote, he's better than this? i mean, that is a close friend of the president publicly saying that? >> well, and tom bear rack is a good friend of the presidents and i had localel he doesn't match up on a handful of issues. it's a free country. he's free to go and express his opinion. i think on a couple of the issues recently i think particularly on the nfl and the national anthem issue that we've seen over the last couple of weeks, that's one where ...

>> but you're saying that general kelly wasn't brought this to try to kind of restore order and control access to the president, control, you know, the information the president got? >> i think general kelly was brought in partially to go in and put in real structure which the white house definitely needed. but there's a difference between instilling structure and helping to run government, which we obviously need. i mean, there are thousands and thousands of people who ultimately report to the folks in the white house. there is a difference between that and trying to control president trump. ...