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Like a lot of republicans, ron desantis not want to keep ceding the political future to donald trump. in the whims of donald trump he'd like to consider running himself either in '24 or in '28, which ever is more politically realistic. he's looking for a space and yes, remarkably, because president trump was president when the vaccine was created, and because he does feel a sense of paternity over the vaccine, he i think is more obliged to trump with the vaccine than a lot of people in the party. you're not going to hear ron desantis or some other conservative governor, perhaps tom botton or t...

The perceived excesses of the mandates and lackdowns et cetera. i think trump feels some pride about the vaccine. you don't hear that from a lot of republicans. >> i think what desantis is doing observing it from the outside is positioning himself wondering can we do this without trump and he wants to create the space where he can and you're seeing it i think among other republicans as well, not insignificantly jonathan, glen youngkin the new governor of virginia the commonwealth what he did his first days in office signing executive orders saying that schools can't have mask mandates. listen ...

Of course we all remember the fairly recent incidents in pittsburgh and poway and that's only some of the examples of jewish houses of worship. it goes beyond just synagogues. so this is something we really need our government to get behind and we need our political leaders to rally behind as well. >> that's why we're so grateful to hear from you today, joel schwitzer, thank you for helping us keep the spotlight where it need to be. new details in the escalating feud between the governor of florida and the de facto governor who is in mar-a-lago, and busted, what a nurse who was supposed to b...

Coast. thousands without power, freezing, rain and ice and snow stretching as far as florida. the governor is pleading for people to stay off the roads, high wind and sleet across the northern part of the state making driving a mess. more of the same in north carolina where the conditions have turned deadly. a tractor trailer slid off the highway that killed two people. multiple tornadoes touched down in southwest florida, in lee county, 28 homes were destroyed, dozens more declared unlivable. in south carolina the national guard had to be called in to assist stranded ifrs, black ice and snow ...

Obviously ambitious and trump does feel like, john, and rightfully so, i covered this primary in 2018 that were it not for his intervention just over three years ago in the primary in florida, ron desantis would not be governor today. he does feel a level of sort of almost political ownership over desantis. in a way he doesn't over all future competitors. >> one of the things i'm trying to wrap my head around is what desantis is thinking as he goes about this. >> sure. >> and the fact that's even seeming to criticize the trump administration from the right on their covid policies. >> sure. >> ...