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Voters are negative in many ways. they'll get out of the street and go vote on a rainy day or snowy day because they don't like somebody. >> well, that's true. i think there is no question in my mind that donald trump is going to lose the popular vote in 2020. i think the only question is -- >> what about the states that shermichael mentioned, though? they're the critical states? >> right. i very much hope he is right. i think he is probably right, but i don't think anybody should be complacent about donald trump's inevitable loss because i think that one thing we're learning is that there is ...

Hockey sticks. how am i supposed to know what racist i spoke to. it was easy for gillum to say what he said. desantis is a classic example of what happens when a candidate melts down. i think he thought this race was going to be easier. he didn't show poise or control. they kept lobbing softballs. he made it easy for gillum to meme him. >> i think it's dramatic for an african-american to be governor. that hasn't happened much. doug wilder down here in a three-way race he managed to win, but this is just a hell of a race. >> it looks like it's going to be -- it's a very tight race. it's a very ...