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Ironier, the man who led the eavesdropping program, getting the tables turned on him. now it's the political dish of the day. tom matsy said he was is the sitting on the extra infrom d.c. to new york, listening for an hour and 20 minutes to a man speaking brashly on his cell phone. >> i didn't like what he was doing. >> it wasn't just any passenger. it was michael hayden, speaking to reporters, giving his take on the nsa spying scandal, insisting, matsy says, he be referred to as a former senior administration official. that's what matsy, a former progressive activist started live tweeting wha...

Joins me former advisor for the republican conference . democrat strategist and move on.com. tom matsy. thank you for joiningut. >> good afternoon. >> good to see you, we see max even - on max even waters. i am not going down without eye fight. i want it right now. is she self motivated or a possible good thing for the democrat party before the midterms? tom? >> well, i suspect that the congresswoman is trying to present her best defense. if you look at what is going on in the congress for the last couple of years. the fact of the mart is, ethics are getting better. because of the democrat ref...