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Referred to this reporting that papadopoulos is just a small part of the mueller investigation. let's listen to what she said about it. >> maybe his references in looking more to come between the democrats and the clinton campaign since i think if there is any evidence that we've seen to date it's between them colluding with other foreign governments, certainly not from our side. >> right, i guess, tom that's one interpretation. that's probably not really the interpretation of mueller's investigation. >> in this 51-page court transcript. this was tied to his -- it was held in secret. the judge...

There he is, also the president said he didn't think it was important enough to have a special counsel to investigate the irs. i find that very interesting. >> brian: talked to senator manchin and he said this reminds him of the epa. he said coal companies that he represents in west virginia, they've also been targeted with an aggressive regulatory regulation. i think that's why this thing could get a lot bigger. the irs, epa, it seems very similar. >> steve: you know what? you've got debt and taxes now under the same umbrella of sorts. meanwhile, it's interesting because there is a guy who ru...

Groups in ohio. he tried orgeat the media interested in, hey, do you know the irs is targeting my organization? he's been trying to get them interested for a couple of years. they say, tom that, is too over the top and now a big newspaper and a big other news entity have actually apologized for not taking him seriously. that's fantastic. a little late, but still fantastic. >> brian: those organization, they're still going to get sued. this is going to be the story of the next few weeks. all these organizations that said we never could get on track, it's been nine months of harrowing and costly...