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What this was like start to finish as people tried to get you to run for president and he's a great storyteller and he has a great memory about things that happened and what people were saying at the time and he went through it. but you're absolutely right. he's got this kind of wide-eyed view of it all as he talks about it. >> that is, mika, isn't that one of the things we found early on, good friends with chris, talked with him a good bit about this, and there was just this contrast between chris christie, tough guy, and chris christie little kid going -- >> who me? >> somebody called me and...

Create the impression that obama and the mean democrats want to take away your guns. very specifically, no one is talking about that. no one wants to do that. and in fact, as i mentioned, the president's view of the second amendment is really quite conservative. he doesn't want to take your guns. he just wants to make this place safe so we don't have newtown massacres every year. >> well, i don't hear democrats talking like this. there's no comparative vernacular we can use that come from the democrats on this. it will be interesting to see if there are any republicans that might step forward ...

And the mean democrats want to take away your guns. very specifically, no one is talking about that. no one wants to do that. and in fact, as i mentioned, the president's view of the second amendment is really quite conservative. he doesn't want to take your guns. he just wants to make this place safe so we don't have newtown massacres every year. >> well, i don't hear democrats talking like this. there's no comparative vernacular we can use that come from the democrats on this. it will be interesting to see if there are any republicans that might step forward and say you know, let's tone it d...

He's got a bigger problem. romney needs to convince the people in ohio, michigan, and virginia that the economy is terrible there as well. republican governors in all of those states are enjoying better than average unemployment. these republican governors are in a tight spot. they could be honest about their economic success or lie for the candidate romney. let's turn to ben, national press secretary for the obama campaign. ben, good to have you with us tonight. >> nice to be with you. >> to be fair obviously these republican governors are saying, hey, what i'm doing in my state is why we hav...

Unemployment. >> if romney wants rick scott to stop talking about florida's economic success under obama, he's got a bigger problem. romney needs to convince the people in ohio, michigan, and virginia that the economy is terrible there as well. republican governors in all of those states are enjoying better than average unemployment. these republican governors are in a tight spot. they could be honest about their economic success or lie for the candidate romney. let's turn to ben, national press secretary for the obama campaign. ben, good to have you with us tonight. >> nice to be with you. >>...