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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120521:20:11:00

Regarding the strategy. what do we want to touch with what limited resources we have? before world war ii, we had something called plant orange which looked at the pacific regarding what issues we had to address. we haven t done this with relation to kabul. the second thing s what do we want to with pakistan? most importantly, they have nuclear weapons. nuclear weapons which both the taliban and the al qaeda folks that are still existing are trying to get ahold of in some form, and let me tell you something, that is something they will continue to pursue, there is no reason to think that they won t, because pointed out by anne earlier, pakistan is it a basket case, and if we don t pay attention to that, we will see bad things happen, which is why we have to focus on what s necessary and what we have to do. what is necessary, tony? necessary is to understand the fact that anybody who has a nuclear weapon has to retain ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120521:20:09:00

Democracies, many of them are not free market economies you re referring to china? i m referring to china, i m referring to russia, i m even referring to countries like brazil. we were in line with our allies. look at the countries today and you see a projecting power around the world, we just don t agree with them as much. nato incredibly important in 1949 for those four decades containing the soviet union, obviously did some work in libya. but now it s diverging. europe incredibly worried about itself, uthe eurozone and so forth. i think today is quite significant historically because nato is, on so many levels, breaking up. it s obsolete. tony, if you look at the conversations, and sam, if you look at the broader conversation, the talk about a need for a global debt restructuring, a new martial plan which is a post world war ii apparatus, what that looks like, we don t know, but it s ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120521:20:10:00

Not even under conversation right now. the post-war, if you will, american foreign policy looks like, we ve got 300 soldiers a week coming back from camp pendleton, 3,000 will come back to the naval base in san diego. we re moving to a different period of time. it would appear to be a moment for whoever the u.s. president is to attempt to shape a new paradigm in diplomacy, period. i m curious from your perspective, both perspectives, as to which will drive that new policy and that paradigm more, the annual necessity or the availability, the opportunity for us to be policing the world or those forces domestically which benefit financially so much from our involvement around the world, whether it s the 750 bases that we have or those interests that we re protecting. which one is going to win out? i think foreign policy. tony first. go ahead. well, first off, we have to establish a policy going forward ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120521:20:06:00

Acceptable. this is a devil we know quite well and we are prepared to pay them more. we also have we ve killed a bunch of pakistani civilians, there have been a lot of drone strokes, a lot of mea culpas, a lot of egg in our face. does that allow them to squeeze more of a payment we provide them? you betcha. that s where it s at right now. tony, you agree? you bet. right now we ve budgeted in $13 million for the privilege, auz pointed out, of funding both sides of the war. there are alternatives. we re looking at other routes, but they would be as expensive or maybe more. president obama has not served himself well by holding the president zardari off. he has this kind of small meeting with him. we have killed pakistani civilians, and dylan, you and i both know, we talked about that off the air, i am all for ....

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