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Market, or i have a tpraepbd of a friend of a friend that knows this pharmacist, and in our case that's what we were after, and you go to a gym, and you can walk into any gym right now and get steroids or find somebody that has that connection with steroids and it's not that difficult, and some of the gyms >> tony, do you agree -- steve, i mean, getting it at gyms and everywhere else? >> yeah, it's accessible, like tony said. a lot of guys are very resourceful, and when you are talking about big money, you will see guys that do whatever it take to get that contract. >> thank you so much for be...

Market, or i have a tpraepbd of a friend of a friend that knows this pharmacist, and in our case that's what we were after, and you go to a gym, and you can walk into any gym right now and get steroids or find somebody that has that connection with steroids and it's not that difficult, and some of the gyms >> tony, do you agree -- steve, i mean, getting it at gyms and everywhere else? >> yeah, it's accessible, like tony said. a lot of guys are very resourceful, and when you are talking about big money, you will see guys that do whatever it take to get that contract. >> thank you so much for be...

>> so is there an incentive for any of these guys to point the finger at somebody else, steve? >> absolutely. they try to minimize their own basis and try to clean up their name. these guys have to audition every single day for a new job and contract and your window of opportunity is very small playing in sports, as tony knows, and you have to go out and get the money. if it means that you have to point the finger at somebody, they do. >> when you hear about people liken lance armstrong doing this kind of thing and lying about all this doping, where are they getting this stuff from? is there a...

Employer. >> so is there an incentive for any of these guys to point the finger at somebody else, steve? >> absolutely. they try to minimize their own basis and try to clean up their name. these guys have to audition every single day for a new job and contract and your window of opportunity is very small playing in sports, as tony knows, and you have to go out and get the money. if it means that you have to point the finger at somebody, they do. >> when you hear about people liken lance armstrong doing this kind of thing and lying about all this doping, where are they getting this stuff from? ...

Employer. >> so is there an incentive for any of these guys to point the finger at somebody else, steve? >> absolutely. they try to minimize their own basis and try to clean up their name. these guys have to audition every single day for a new job and contract and your window of opportunity is very small playing in sports, as tony knows, and you have to go out and get the money. if it means that you have to point the finger at somebody, they do. >> when you hear about people liken lance armstrong doing this kind of thing and lying about all this doping, where are they getting this stuff from? ...