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He is 48 years old right now. he applies for it with the office of personnel management. they have the ultimate deciding authority. >> so he could get it. >> he could get his pension. so unelected federal bureau craft will make the final determination. what they will look at is whether or not his crime was related to his work. and, remember, he was convicted. >> of course it was. >> wire fraud, mail fraud. >> his crime was he got gain donations and he used them to buy michael jackson's cape. of course it was. so we don't know and that's down the line. >> who knows what's going to happen with o...

He is 48 years old right now. he applies for it with the office of personnel management. they have the ultimate deciding authority. >> so he could get it. >> he could get his pension. so unelected federal bureau craft will make the final determination. what they will look at is whether or not his crime was related to his work. and, remember, he was convicted. >> of course it was. >> wire fraud, mail fraud. >> his crime was he got gain donations and he used them to buy michael jackson's cape. of course it was. so we don't know and that's down the line. >> who knows what's going to happen with o...