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>> and music's best star maker of clive davis, jennifer hudson, and have you seen anything like that? >> well, sometimes if i have enough energy to. >> and only in america, bra -- barbra streisand is having a special grammy moment. this is piers morgan the night. good evening, politics and pipes and president obama listening to mitt romney today at the political action conference. >> it has been a great conference so far and for that we should probably acknowledge president obama, because he is the conservative movement's top recruiter, and it turns out -- [ applause ] turns out he...

rules of the game and play better than anybody else. >> and music's best star maker of clive davis, jennifer hudson, and have you seen anything like that? >> well, sometimes if i have enough energy to. >> and only in america, bra -- barbra streisand is having a special grammy moment. this is piers morgan the night. good evening, politics and pipes and president obama listening to mitt romney today at the political action conference. >> it has been a great conference so far and for that we should probably acknowledge president obama, because he is the conservative movement's top rec...

>> chris, chris. >> might be better in person. >> your book, what two lessons can president obama draw from that? i'm curious? >> with your indulgence, a couple things. these are tough. you have asked me a tough. he has to justify a second term if he wants a second term. the key is to show growth. it will be better than h this term. i'm a veteran now. i can do a better job than i have. he has to. it hasn't been a great term for popularity. he has to admit there are a couple of things he didn't do the way he should have. i could argue the stimulus package, too big, too small, whatever. he has t...

That. it had some infrastructure, had some short run things. if you look at the cash for clunkers or first home buyer tax credit. they were geared to try to shift it from 2010 into 2009. given it's taken this long, i don't think you would do that short stuff. >> just for clarity, when the administration came in and did the stimulus, however big it was, too big, too small, how much was the economy shrinking then? when folks were -- >> it was at minus 9%. at the time we thought it was around minus 3.5%. and it wasn't just us -- >> minus 3.5%. >> which would be pretty bad, but minus 9% is worse. ...

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