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>> out front now, robert rice, labor secretary under president clinton, and steven moore, informal white house adviser. bernie sanders wants to raise social security taxes and investment taxes, 6 1/2% there, this is the latest proposal from a democrat. >> it sure is and you're exactly right, erin, that almost every democratic presidential candidate is coming out with some new plan to raise taxes even higher on the one who came before them. look, i hate it. i think we should have a flat tax in this country, where everybody pays the same rate, get rid of the loopholes and deductions. what i hate...

At the time were paying more than 50%. steve moore is saying that's not fair or that's bad or somebody hates the rich, no, more and more of the nation's income is now concentrated at the very top. most americans have had no income, if you adjust for inflation, in their income in 40 years. why shouldn't the rich pay more when more and more is concentrated at the top? >> steve? >> this is exactly the opposite of the strategy that we used when we put the tax plan together for donald trump, which is the lower taxes on people, by the way, this top 1%, you know the numbers, 60% of them, own, operate...

And you could also do it in ways that would help the poor. they didn't want to do it. i don't believe they convinced themselves either. i think they believed that the top 1% would be job creators. and in many ways the economy is good but you don't see an increase in wages. even though there have been some wage increases recently, when you have a lot of growth, not as much as it did in the past gets put into wages. >> thanks for being with me. >> thank you. >> just ahead why mitch mcconnell wants to force a vote on a green new deal. the plan that is changing the conversation on climate change c...

It's an -- if they wanted a middle class tax cut, they could have written a middle class tax cut. there are a million things they could have done to put every dollar in that tax cut towards the working class. and you could also do it in ways that would help the poor. they didn't want to do it. i don't believe they convinced themselves either. i think they believed that the top 1% would be job creators. and in many ways the economy is good but you don't see an increase in wages. even though there have been some wage increases recently, when you have a lot of growth, not as much as it did in the...

Themselves and it's a perverse incentive system. >> that's right. i observed something i think you observed. you can't walk down the street without bumping into somebody who says they want to change the world. more money being given away than ever. people have these foundations. they do disruptive this, disruptive that. mark zuckerberg is trying to fix education. even the facebook's a limb bttlt of a plague. the google guys are trying to emancipate people through information. every rich person has a plan to save the world these days. and yet this is the toughest time to be a worker or middle c...