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campaign team, that his claims of election fraud were just lies. >> but they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. >> the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? >> i told them that it was -- it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. >> and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that wer...

his campaign knows he lost. his administration knows he lost. and nevertheless, he tells the country, i won. >> we have much more evidence to show the american people on this point than we can reasonably show in one hearing. and today, we will begin. >> tonight, new testimony from the very top of trump's own campaign team, that his claims of election fraud were just lies. >> but they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president...

of election fraud were just lies. >> what they were proposing, that was nuts. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. law firms were not comfortable making the arguments that rudy giuliani was making publicly. >> evidence today that former president trump knew he lost, and kept telling lies about it. >> the president accepted that. he said, okay, fine, but what about the others? >> i told them that it was -- it was crazy stuff, and i was doing great, doing service for the country. >> and why the investigation now involves fundraising off claims that were notably false? >> not only w...

Here, and in the middle of this summation, just to digest this, just to make sure we've got the importance of those first two points, before we move on. chris hayes, let me start with you. >> well, i thought that first section about the room that night was really key. for a few reasons, one is that it's a top down operation. that donald trump, along with the court, apparently intoxicated rudy giuliani, in the words of liz cheney, is the one directing them towards this premature call. it's not -- you get a lot of this exculpatory or intends to apologize for trump, or maybe he was surrounded by ...

Been told that republican votes would come in first, and democratic votes would come in later. that was normal. he then demanded that the vote count must stop early. there's more still to come from us here tonight, in terms of summarizing with investigation showed today. but we're gonna take a break here, and in the middle of this summation, just to digest this, just to make sure we've got the importance of those first two points, before we move on. chris hayes, let me start with you. >> well, i thought that first section about the room that night was really key. for a few reasons, one is that...