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China can't do that because its media outlets are too top—down, too turgid and too propagandistic, other than xinhua. yuen, what is your analysis of how china and russia's compare? i think russia is quite a lot behind russia when it comes to disinformation. and that's because of the difference, i would argue, between state propaganda on one hand, which the chinese state media machine is set up to do, and disinformation where state propaganda is where you have the platform, you'ave the whole stage, the microphone, you're telling everyone through the loudspeakers what you want people to believ...

Was great at encouraging wild conspiracy theories, - that it injected into the public bloodstream all over the world. china cannot do that, _ because its media outlets are too top—down, too turgid and too - propagandistic, other than xinhua. yuan, what is your analysis of how china and russia's approaches compare? i think china's quite a way behind russia. as other guests have said, when it comes to disinformation. that is because of the difference, i would argue, between state propaganda, on the one hand, which the chinese state media machine is set up to do, and disinformation, where state...

Speak— top—down, it produces packages that speak to _ top—down, it produces packages that speak to people like my grandparents's generation it is not speaking _ grandparents's generation it is not speaking to the gen 2 generation. that wilt— speaking to the gen 2 generation. that will be an inquest doing challenge to speak to... how they manage _ challenge to speak to... how they manage to — challenge to speak to... how they manage to work with the independent content _ manage to work with the independent content producers who make snappy headlines _ content producers who make snappy...

Influence universities and societies as they think they're going to spend a tonne of money on their model of walled garden internet which is something we haven't gotten into here. but it is something they have been promoting to a lot of countries and one that has become increasingly popular among authority regimes. you are right, since the discussions i have been seeing in the last couple of weeks, this idea of the internet splitting into different global zones has become more and more high profile as a possible outcome of this media battle. you what about you, what do you see this evolving to...

Promoting to a lot of countries, and one that has become increasingly popular among authoritarian regimes. you're right, since the discussions i've seen the last couple of weeks, the idea of the internet splitting into different global zones has become more and more high profile as a possible outcome of this media battle that we have been discussing. yuan, how do you see this evolving? how do you think chinese will want to spend the money the most? i think a really interesting thing to watch as the interplay between state media in china and commercial or more independent self made media and so...