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That was the idea. we saw it in pop culture of the 1980s, top gun-ification of our debates of pop culture, pop culture aimed at children, and now seeing a rerun. this idea that every problem can be solved, every foreign policy problem apparently can be solved with a war. another thing that comes out of the '80s, every domestic problem supposedly can be solved by a tax cut. these all come out of the 1980s. and again, both the political culture and popular culture of the 1980s. >> the nice thing about that, it can be sort of a bummer when you think of it that way, but it can be like the '80s whe...

Mythologized so the lesson we learned about the '80s is that they did work. >> that's what's crazy about this. you're right. if we rerun history from the 1980s, we should be able to learn about it, learn from our mistakes. what's happened, we really created a legend out of what happened in the 1980s. and i would argue that that was both, again, from ronald reagan and from a lot of the entertainment culture that doesn't seem like political messages. we learn from movies like "iron eagle", "top gun," tv shows like the a-team, dukes of hazard, that the military is the ultimate institution in soci...