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Number two, any language on russia that isn't critical of russia can be so bracing, like language we've heard from the president throughout the campaign, we'll see. i would like to have a positive relationship with this guy, and then torture, the euphemistic enhanced interrogation that as andrea puts it so well has been a flashing red light to so many. >> yes, those are the three substantive points. as much as i love and respect andrea, i have a slightly different view on the torture issue. i think by stating so clearly, i don't think i've ever heard the president say so clearly that he was go...

Trump on a number of issues. >> torture is one. >> i want to play a sound. this is a clip, a clip from yesterday when the prime minister back in england was asked, in parliament, asked prime minister -- >> prime minister. >> pressed as the prime minister was asked her position on torture in relation to what donald trump has said recently. take a list. >> we have a very clear position on torture. we do not sanction torture. we do not get involved with that, and that will continue to be our position. >> and that comes, of course, yesterday morning, last night in the interview with abc, president...

Upset the president who admits is obsessed is a little bit alarming because it is a slippery slope. and you know what? there are going to be things his agencies are going to report he's not going to like. and you know what? it's what happens when you're not running your own organization or your campaign. you have got to get used to it. you're the leader of the government. >> let me come back in a second because i've been told, as we've been talking about crowd size, you've got news on the cia. >> just 20 minutes away from when the new president goes to address the cia. it's mike pompeo, not ye...

The issues he hasn't directly confronted or at least not to the degree he will at the department of homeland security. i like general mattis very much. i like how he's pushed back on the torture issue. how he's tough on russia and i hope will talk some sense into the president-elect. and very strongly supportive of nato. we are concerned, though, with appointing so many generals, and this i think is directly implicated in that statutory prohibition on filling the slot at secretary of defense with a recent retired military officer. >> but that was 1946 when that was passed, right? it was a very...

Anti-torture. >> but his incoming cia director, mike pompeo, is assuming that the senate confirms him has suggested that he would be in favor of bringing back waterboarding. it's more important what donald trump thinks about this. because that would be the policy that they are pursuing. and he has suggested that he would like to bring it back. >> but there is also difference of opinion within the intelligence community itself, and also the cia, where officers and people working within there have straight-up said, we will not do it if you tell us to. you will have to bring your own bucket. pres...