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The trump election loss. because the person who's running this torture program, against jennifer, is the person she beats in the election, the republican she beats in the election, in a used to be the democrats beat the republicans, the republican waited around for the next election, or went off into the real estate, business or something else, but now, democrat beats the republican, and the republican goes into attack, against the democrat, who beat the republican, and you get things lake, january six, and you get things like the continuing trumpian madness that donald trump spews every day. ...

>> kelly cobiella with that incredible reporting, kelly, thank you so much. we'll look for more of that coming up on "nbc nightly news." coming up here on this show, a fascinating and potentially critical case in front of the supreme court today on u.s. government secrets and the cia's not so secret torture program after 9/11. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ ♪upbeat music♪

Williams is following this case and these arguments. pete, how did the justices respond to what they heard and what are the bigger implications here? >> the essence of this is not what was done to him but where it was done. the senate report never said where the black sites were, although it seems to be a pretty open secret that one of them was in poland. and that's what abu zubaydah's lawyers want to find out. the government says even though other people are talking about it, the fact is that the government has made a commitment to its allies that it would never reveal the places where these ...

These guys need to be brought to real american justice, and i believe article 3 courts, regular courts can deal with their cases. unfortunately, in the techniques program, the torture program made it very difficult to accomplish any kind of justice for the families, and, you know, with these people getting the sentences that they deserve. th thmpls -- it's going to be difficult to get any evidence against them in a court of law without disclosing what they

>> yeah. i think looking back now with 20 years of hindsight, what we see is that the u.s. made a series of choice in the wake of 9/11 about how to pursue the so-called global war on terror that ultimately compromised our aims to secure freedom, left us sort of less free at home, less secure at home, more morally compromised, more alone on the world stage than the united states has ever been. and it is a series of very tragic choices where we chose some poor allies, we misdefined our enemy, and then we sort of misdefined what our quest for justice would be and the dark side that dick cheney hi...