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>> reporter: ramsey is the first to say he has not lived a perfect life. you have been in jail? >> you got that right, sugar. you reach that age, it's like, am i going to be a total schmuck the rest of my life or you going to stop being the schmuck? >> reporter: monday you showed the world you weren't a schmuck. >> i don't know about next monday, can't promise you nothing. >> cynthia mcfadden in new york. >> as real as they come. >> absolutely. he is a hero. i don't know if cynthia mcfadden has been called sugar three times in an interview. >> three times in an interview. she is a sugar. like ...

Of here. he says, i'm not getting involved in that. i did what i had to do. and she got out of there. >> reporter: ramsey is the first to say he has not lived a perfect life. you have been in jail? >> you got that right, sugar. you reach that age, it's like, am i going to be a total schmuck the rest of my life or you going to stop being the schmuck? >> reporter: monday you showed the world you weren't a schmuck. >> i don't know about next monday, can't promise you nothing. >> cynthia mcfadden in new york. >> as real as they come. >> absolutely. he is a hero. i don't know if cynthia mcfadden ha...

And he told abc's cynthia mcfadden that he decided at some point in his life that he wasn't going to be a total schmuck the rest of his life, and that's when he cleaned up his act. >> he's got a way with words. >> he's been on the news quite a lot and said a lot of things, but the fact is he did an amazing thing by freeing those girls. >> no doubt about it. >> the story about how these girls were held captive, but not only that, captured, is another part of the story that i think is going to raise a lot of eyebrows. all three of them were offered rides by ariel castro. all three of them oblige...

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