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Any money. your family had no money when you were going awayy. and i thought, well, i guess i guess it can't be that corrupt if he's out of money.. right. so what was that like for your family whenn my my wife patty, who was on your show and i want to thank you for that but oh was a wonderful interview. no, i'm a total sucker for loyal spouses. you werey. terrific. i thought the best line that night was when you said, you know, i really feel bad for you though. i have to tell you i wasn't a fan of your husband. i remembers. earlier this year.o yes.ur yes. i mean there's something beautiful abo...

He tried to implement the same situation at j.c. penney. didn't work because the j.c. penney consumer wants that discount. now you see j.c. penney, it's all about discount and bargain basements. >> i think this is really interesting. they try to get you to buy stuff by faking popularity. >> right. >> i'm a total sucker for this. if i think something is going to sell out and everybody wants it, i want somebody that i want to buy a present for to have it. >> that's exactly it. they want to create this sense of urgency. so if they say there's only a couple items left over, they want you to go ahe...