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Lot of women, romney. >> sure. >> why does his manner impress people? >> the perception of him, as haley barbour said, he was an out of touch plutocrat married to a known equestrian. when people saw he was a serious politician, not the thurston howell character, it helped him. i think that's still the case. >> you don't think he was that guy? i thought -- he looked like a big business big shot. >> but by the way, in the first debate you said he was kind of a bully. no, he wasn't in the first debate. i thought there was a civility to him. >> covering up for lack of deference. >> on the obama ca...

I saw cecile richards introduced him in northern virginia today. my question is without a gender gap, can a democrat win? >> no. no chance. no chance. they have to. >> because if the issue is health, education, it's women's rights, the whole plethora of issues. >> that's why when you see the race this close and then you'll see some polls that will be a two or three-point race but there's no gender gap you're like throw that poll out. there's a gender gap in american politics. >> kathleen turner and tough hom rays in a minute not just you guys but my question is how can one guy one night, he wa...

Troeps they would repeat to signal to voters i am not an out of touch plutocrat. mitt romney because he had to worry about shoring up his base through the duration of the primary and the right got trapped in its rhetoric never did that. instead of playing against type he played to type. this we built this stuff, just spit on you -- all the -- all the we built this stuff you saw at the convention, was him embracing the idea of himself as this kind of titanic job creator figure as opposed to playing against. the first time we've seen him try to try to play against type was in the debate last nig...

At the polls? >> it very well -- it probably will. i mean, you know, the polls are what they are, but there's a lot of people are angry and upset at the obama administration policies and what it's doing to coal. listen, there's a -- the southwest part of the state, a very coal-dependent economy. now, cross-cutting against that is, as you know, the obama campaign has been really forceful in portraying mitt romney as like this rich, you know, out of touch plutocrat -- gregg: right. >> -- private equity guy, so there's cross-pressures on a lot of these guys between, you know, like, anger over wha...