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About some of the more fringe elements of the republican right wing saying that the president should be issuing pardons immediately. they're the kind of people who you might normally ignore but the fringe in trump world becomes the center of his thinking. might people like paul manafort be hanging on in the hope of pardons or is it even possible to consider the possibility that rick gates moving into the zone of a guilty plea might provoke the president toward pardoning? >> i think that's obviously a very significant question. i'm left to wait to see what this president will or won't do. i've ...

To consider the possibility that rick gates moving into the zone of a guilty plea might provoke the president toward pardoning? >> i think that's obviously a very significant question. i'm left to wait to see what this president will or won't do. i've long since abon dandoned a hope of accurately predicting what he might do. i think going a little further on what rick gates might be able to bring to the body of knowledge about the totality of circumstanc circumstanc circumstances, is that gates and manafort obviously were representing, lobbying for the ukraine government and a docume dominant ...

This president began his political career with a lie about barack obama. this lie about obama is the whole foundation of his political advancement. so you can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. i think it's also very important to hold accountable those people in elected office all the way down through state legislatures who are enabling him. if you go back to the 50s, they call them fellow travelers. these are fellow travelers with trump being soft on russia and disrespecting our people and constitution. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say. i want to come back to this being soft on r...

The hacking of john podesta's e-mails, which would be a crime of the e-mail act. and also if he had past dealings with russians and past oligarchs in some of these real estate deals. bauds everybody else that might be of interest seems to have gotten plea deals. the only other person is the attorney general jeff sessions who had dealings with the russians that he did not report during his confirmation hearings. >> there's reporting in politico about some of the more fringe elements of the republican right wing saying that the president should be issuing pardons immediately. they're the kind of...

Can assure you and the president we're backing our statement that we are going to be here and at this rally and if he would like to come, he's more than welcome. >> kevin, if you got a moment with the president, what would you want to tell him about this? >> look, mr. president, you have to listen to us. we've been through it. you have to enact real change. i saw you on the campaign trail, maybe i didn't vote you or my parents didn't vote from you, i saw on the campaign trail, you wouldn't take money from the nra, you would be independent, you wouldn't be beholden to the interest groups that y...