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Stuff day-to-day it's confusing. for the great mass that doesn't follow it in detail day-to-day, it gets very confusing and as i say, i think the purpose there is to trivialized concerns. >> put aside for a moment the question of whether he is serving fine as well with the shifting explanations. how much interest would it be from an intelligence perspective whether or not candidate trump was having these moscow tower conversations or people representing him were having these moscow tower conversations all through the 2016 campaign. >> potential great implications from a counter intelligence pe...

Two crimes and they are not civil infractions and campaign violations. they are felonies and relate to violations of campaign finance law. i think it's a president's effort to minimize the conduct and we have a witness who testified if in open court that he was directed to commit two felonies, which is obvious serious. >> lanny davis who is a lawyer normally associated with the clintons is advising cohen and said that cohen shared his testimony plan, which we now know was false testimony under oath to congress. he shared that with the white house before he gave it to congress. let's listen to ...