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Device to initiate by lifting or opening a box. even the -- the uni bomber used a plunger type device when the box was lifted off the ground it set off the device. so right now i think what we have is a wealth of potential information. because one device that didn't initiate. depending how the bomb techs had to rsp the device render it safe, once they can do that they can do forensics on pennsylvania device that's intact. >>y he. >> looking at fingerprinting looking at dpa and also looking at components. now, i participated in the iraq in the later part of my career with what they call the com...

Explosive exploitation cell. we learned in war conditions how to collect this information and we were very successful in tracing bombs back to the origin based on the information collected at the scene. so this ability is here. >> and there was. >> i think this -- >> one found intact this morning and they will get the information you mentioned earlier just like you said earlier thank you be, jim i appreciate your time. >> okay thank you. >> when we come back ben carson throwing his wife under the bus for ordering that infamous $31,000 dining set. really? but i'm not standing still... and with ...