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There could be an ultimate disclosure of the identities. and i use plural because now we know that there is at least one additional whistleblower who has come forward regarding the trump administration and more specifically president trump's interaction with ukraine. but you know we're supposed to be affording under the law protections to make sure that the identities of people who have the braver and the courage to make sure the law is followed to the t they have the ability to come forward kwh herard and . you and i are not discussing the names of the whistleblowers. as the investigation unf...

The investigation. >> in your experience what is usually the issue at hand? is it a track issue? >> it does it all. i did crashes that had track issues with the undercarriage of the train, had issues with the speed and the signals. so maybe he was going 79 and the signals shouldn't have had him going that fast. >> i mean this happened on a curve. >> if the track was certified for 75 on a curve, then it was okay for a train to go that fast. we're speculating on the train. and i made comment, we're talking about trying to determine if this was new track or old track, take a look at the brim. tha...

The only reason it's not installed yet we found out today is because of the fcc, there was a bandwidth problem trying to work out. nothing to do with funding and amtrak came out today to say that and still they proceed. still chuck schumer explicit says it is simply a fact that insufficient funding delayed installation of positive train control. no it isn't. it's not a fact. you have misled the american people and, charles, he is going to get away with it. no one will make him draw that back. no one makes him disabuse the people who heard him of that notion. >> look. the president did the same...

Have a control system which would have prevented this accident and the investment was not there to put it in. >> just a -- >> if you have the engineer who was attempting to go in an excessive rate of speed for whatever reason which we do not know the train control would have automatically prevented the accident. >> who needs an engineer in that event, right is it. >> neil we've had a lot of conversations. you can say you need power. of course you need -- >> right. >> but it's for safety. >> but the device or -- could it have been a track issue as well? >> i mean any sort of mechanism

Nina? >> obamacare goes to the heart of the questions about the president's governance. raised the right track, wrong track issue. less negativism about the country right after obama was elected. just the wrong track just goes off the charts. largely over obamacare and this whole sense that is he not decisive and not honest because of the saying you can keep your own healthcare and keep your own doctors. that's really hurt him. he should take this opportunity to try to reestablish his credibility on the issue. my sense is he doesn't want to go down that route too far. it's politically fraught ...