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Expensive. >> i did advise the president on economics. he knows that i disagreed w him on this tariff policy. i would make the case -- i'll make the case what trump is doing better than what you did. i think he cares about these manufacturing workers in the midwest and states like michigan and ohio and pennsylvania. and, you know, when i campaigned with him in these states, this trade position was very popular with these voters and they are concerned about losing their factories to china and other nations. look. one of the things i would say about trump's policy is that the indignation of thes...

Dynamic to this in the u.s., china relationship. all of this comes as trade negotiations the united states and beijing continue. describe how all of this dovetails together. >> i think everyone is going to try to get something out of the deal. for china, ever since president trump linked the trade negotiations the sort of as he put it the pressure campaign china is putting on north korea, for the chinese, it is a better trade position. that's what they want out of the deal. the problem is, you heard her talk about this, there are no visible deliveries for denuclearization of the korean peninsu...

Progressively but we are going to enforce the law. how about trade. >> i don't know if the democrats have a trade position or a tax position. do you think they need those positions? >> well, they really do. they need a position on everything that hurts the american people. everything that the american people are feeling bad about. we need to do so with a degree of sincerity and do so as if we are part of the whole movement that affects the lives of people. we can't keep doing it the way we did it years ago. unless we get a phenom like i suppose obama, we're not going to be very competitive. >>...

The economic advisers are leaving the ship as quick as they can. >> what do you think, steven. >> well, austin is pretty much right about that. it's bad policy. austin is right -- i've been saying the same thing when you have 50 workers using steel and manufacturing down for every worker that produces steel, you know, you could stee a net reduction in jobs. look, i think donald trump's heart is in the right place. i do think he cares about the steel and aluminum workers. i traveled to a lot of the areas where factories have left. i just don't think this is the way to bring them back. >> why do...

Know, you could actually see a net reduction in jobs. look, i think donald trump's heart is in the right place. i do think he cares about the steel and aluminum workers. i traveled to a lot of the areas where factories have left. i just don't think this is the way to bring them back. >> why doesn't he get that? >> look, they're going to let trump be trump -- >> yeah. >> go ahead. >> if you let trump be trump you better make sure the house is fire proofed. once the advisers are out of there, who knows what he is going to do. >> steven? >> well, austin, look, you know, you and i can talk about t...