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He clearly basically thinks the president is an idiot when it comes to this stuff specifically and he's going to run his chaim befr how he runs his chamber. >> and that only goes so far. but i think for the most part mcconnell has been -- he's been death on shutdowns for a long, long time. and i would argue look -- and i'm not in favor of the wall, but i would say, look, the last two shutdowns we had were in 2009 and 2013. the 2010 mid-terms and the 2014 mid-terms didn't turn out so terrible for the gop. i think he's more scared of a shutdown than is actually merited. now, that having been sai...

Gains that would amount to a unilateral executive agency led $100 billion tax cut for the rich without congress. and i saw that and i thought, if you're the koch brothers, you don't like the trade stuff but that's sort of what you're in for. >> well, the koch brothers, you might be like them if you had their father. they very much believe that the federal government should have a military and police force and nothing else. they don't want to pay taxes or believe in regulation. they believe we can do it through contracts because we all have principles. it is very important to remember, the koch...

Tomorrow. the charges include bank and tax fraud based on more than $60 million. prosecutors say manafort earned as a consultant for a russia-friendly ukrainian political party. which he apparently spent on everything from multimillion-dollar properties to luxury cars and even a $21,000 watch. this trial's expected to last about three weeks, but manafort also faces separate charges in d.c. and that trial starts in september. even closer to the mid-terms. for more on what's at stake for paul manafort and for president trump former watergate prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst nick akerman and it...

Comes to this stuff specifically and he's going to run his chamber how he runs his chamber. >> and that only goes so far. but i think for the most part mcconnell has been -- he's been death on shutdowns for a long, long time. and i would argue look -- and i'm not in favor of the wall, but i would say, look, the last two shutdowns we had were in 2009 and 2013. the 2010 mid-terms and the 2014 mid-terms didn't turn out so terrible for the gop. i think he's more scared of a shutdown than is actually merited. now, that having been said, i do think that for the most part the senate is going to ultim...

Is considering essentially tweaking the way they calculate the sort of expenditure capital gains that would amount to a unilateral executive agency led $100 billion tax cut for the rich without congress. and i saw that and i thought, if you're the koch brothers, you don't like the trade stuff but that's sort of what you're in for. >> well, the koch brothers, you might be like them if you had their father. they very much believe that the federal government should have a military and police force and nothing else. they don't want to pay taxes or believe in regulation. they believe we can do it t...