Of the key reasons is uncertainty created by the trade work, and here's another thing. if we -- if this continues on into february and march, then the next thing up it going to be a bigger deal, is the treasurely debt limit. we need to raise the debt limit, if we don't, the government can't pay its bills. it can't make its debt payments, it can't pay its bills. security payments, you name it, they won't be able to pay it, that's the next big thing. the dysfunction in washington is very broad based. it's a shutdown. the trade war, this dysfunction is becoming a real problem. >> so, paint a wors...