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It. >> and let's talk about the moral, those going in, doing their job, the essential workers agency the president says, are not getting paid. what's it like? >> we came in last week, we talked about it, everybody was fearful of the unknown. it's real now. it happened yesterday, people opened their pay stubs on thursday, saw zeros which is like pouring salt in the wound. morale is as low as i've seen it in 13 years. and getting worse. so, i'll bring up a little statistic we figured out, some 400 people work in the building that i represent just south of atlanta. so, we'll say, just for the sak...

And listen, some of this, no one can control because the storm surprised folks. it grew in strength as it got closer to the coast. are you concerned that your community did not get enough fair warning of how severe this storm was that was coming? >> you know, the truth of that can only be found out in hindsight. what i can tell you is that people had plenty of time to get out of this impact area. and again, the numbers speak for themselves. we told 120,000 people to leave. about 21,000 people left. but that decision is something that we're going to look at in hindsight, and every one of our ci...

Experience level with that kind of very bad weather with thunderstorms topping over 50,000 feet would not elect to climb to get out of the weather because at 38,000 feet you're dangerously close to the service ceiling of that airplane, nearly compromises your performance. so what i'm thinking that perhaps conditions he was in not that bad at that time and maybe he did not see how bad they were ahead if they indeed actually penetrate a severe thunderstorm because it is a little bit unusual to ask to go that high in that airplane if you really, truly thought you were going to encounter severe tu...

Tell me if this is crazy or if you like it. you're in charge of the national transportation safety board. you put signs up before the structurally deficient bridges, big signs and you alert drivers you're about to go over what the u.s. government calls a structurally deficient bridge. you do this at your own risk. good idea or bad idea? >> well, we want to make sure that people understand what these terms mean. i know some of them do sound bad but you can still have a bridge that can be healthy even if it is considered structurally deficient. what that means is if we designed a bridge today we...