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And first responders. the port authority had obviously done it on purpose. the reason why they had done it, this traffic study idea, had seemed bogus from the very beginning. it was called bogus by the executive director of the agency. that seemed pretty clears that there was something weird going on there. so the committee had these subpoena powers already, and they used the subpoena powers they already had from that previous investigation into the port authority to compel a few people involved in this bridge issue to hand over documents about what happened. that is how this whole thing happe...

It gridlocked that town for days on end including school buses and first responders. the port authority had obviously done it on purpose. the reason why they had done it, this traffic study idea, had seemed bogus from the very beginning. it was called bogus by the executive director of the agency. that seemed pretty clears that there was something weird going on there. so the committee had these subpoena powers already, and they used the subpoena powers they already had from that previous investigation into the port authority to compel a few people involved in this bridge issue to hand over do...

Approach to the bridge if you limited the local access to the bridge from ft. lee. i don't know if he would go so far as to say it was his idea to conduct a traffic study. >> well, now he says it wasn't his idea. >> right. >> and sbi sbim mags any sbiini press was him using colorful language. it feels the cover story is dead, so now we should talk about what really happened. mr. nunziato's attorney said his client will have much more to say on this matter in coming days and he will not continue to advance the traffic study idea. is he somebody in a position to know more about what really happe...

Newspaper. thank you for being with us. >> always great to be here. >> so paul nunziato, the port authority political union leader who says that he came up with the traffic study idea in the first place now says, actually, i didn't. i was saying that to keep my friends happy. it wasn't true. how important is that? >> it's important. it does, as you say, it seems to undercut the whole premise of a traffic study, but i think it's quite a while since anybody thought there was any traffic study to begin with, particularly mr. wisniewski or senator weinberg who co-chair the investigative committee....

And other public safety efforts. >> shawn, let me ask you also about paul nunziato. he received a subpoena in the first round of subpoenas on this. it was notable because he turned in documents. he has since been subpoenaed again with a more specific list of documents. he did not ask for an extension in the second subpoena when almost everybody did. bill baroni credited him with the traffic study idea and defended that idea aggressively in the press. what should we understand about him as a figure in this story? >> well, there might not be any documents yet that explain what his thoughts were ...