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Were they in fact employees of the governor? where they detailed by him to work politically. were they all doing this for him? and for him to say oh, they were out rock gas stations or doing something on their own, the whole heart of this was political. what they were doing was political in his interests. and that's what i find is amazing. they skate away from this and say they weren't working for me. >> you kind of touched on this, chris, for instance, he describes lane closures as lane realignments. >> what's that? >> his choice of words throughout this report is really pretty poor. he descr...

Because the moment that i heard the testimony, i knew that it was untrue. because it was all built around the idea that there are somehow private roads for ft. lee only residents that lead to the george washington bridge. that is completely untrue. there are no such lanes of traffic. no private roads only open to private residents and carry 25% of the traffic and they are 25% of the roadways that lead to the upper level of the george washington bridge. not only was there no traffic study, there are no private roads for the use of ft. lee residents only. so, that was a cover up. it was untrue a...

That went to the governor's campaign manager and among others. it really shows that there was a significant political component to what was going on here. we don't know why. we're trying to get that answer, but clearly, involving all of these folks in the campaign, running by them, the press strategy indicates there was some political element to this. >> so, if it was just a traffic study, why would you be calling the campaign, the governor's office? why not just be handled in the port authority? >> that's really the question. where we thought it started, it went to bridgette kelly in the gove...

Least we have explained the counternarrative. what do you make of that phrase? used to describe a testimony before your transportation committee? >> it's troubling. i sat through that and it seemed implausible when it was being delivered, but to see this communication really underscores the fact that they weren't there just simply to put the facts on the record, but they were there to put a story on the record. a counternarrative as we see it described. there was no traffic study. that's been said by pat foy and many other people, but this document really goes to show they considered this to b...

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