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Problem of a dead body in the trunk qualifying, jon for the high occupancy vehicle lane. joking aside, argument from the legal purists you have to go back to the legislature and change the language. jenna: jon, do you think they need to be more specific? >> yeah, they do need to be more specific but here's the thing the legislative intent, as doug said that is key. what did the ledge you're intend when they passed the carpool lanes? was it to have a paperwork you could identify as person or reduce congestion. the judge in this traffic trial could do a lot of different things. he could dismiss ...

Lane because of this definition. it is the same definition under the citizen united versus federal election commission case in 2010 where the united states supreme court said essentially the same thing that a corporation is a person. so his disputing this because he thinks that that ruling is, in his opinion ridiculous. so he will use that in the traffic trial. jenna: he has been trying to get caught for 10 years, doug. trying to be caught in the carpool lane to get caught in this. does he have a case? >> it is interesting because you sort of have two answers. the common sense and living room ...