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>> absolutely. >> laura: they have immunity claims, it will tie people up because you invariably will have a wrongful death claim. even in a case like this where they are trafficking narcotics. it is totally going to happen. by the way, last year, mark, this is after a one-year decline, last year in the united states, 144 police officers were killed in the line of duty. 52 were killed by gunfire. that's a big number. that's a lot of people dead and yet, where are the movies -- think of all the movies made, all the s.a.g. awards, the hollywood -- not enough movies made about police officers who...

Legally and properly. >> lisa: should more be done at the southern border to prevent this illegal activity? well i think that there is at least from what i know, i think that there's a lot of great work going on , on our southern border. i think it's inexcusable that we continue to attack the men and women who are there, either as members of u.s. customs, border patrol, i.c.e. or any other federal law enforcement partners. stop demonizing the men and women who are there trying to protect our communities, it's time to come together and fix the problem. yes, border security needs to be a prior...

We have cartels that are trafficking narcotics, weapons, little girls, we have a problem with human trafficking. we need to secure our borders and we need to give the men and women who protect us, our federal law enforcement partners, the ability to do their job without political interference. lisa: california has come under fire for being a sanctuary state. has that hamstrung your ability to do your job in any way? >> oh, certainly it has. first, and as i told the president of the united states when i sat next to him, i don't think we should be subjected to political interference. i understan...

Metamucil. 3 amazing benefits, 1 super fiber. ♪ welcome back to "hardball." next week in boston a jury selection begins in a highly anticipated trial of whitey bulger the notorious leader of the winter hill gang sort of irish mafia for his alleged role in 19 murders, extortion, loan sharking, and trafficking narcotics charges. whitey bulger is considered both folk hero and criminal sometimes both at the same time in south boston especially. his brother billy was a major politician in the senate up there in massachusetts and jack nicholson's role in "the departed" was loosely based on bulge...