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>> well, it doesn't make sense in that nor the for the irs the third rail issue is partisanship. that is, really, when you look at the training irs agents, that's really the touch-stone of what defines or should define their agency. they're supposed to be strictly apolitical. so it's hardly to imagine a supervisors who is so tone deaf as to not see hourer w serious investigation would be. they told them they would not be going to prosecute for water torture. it is doubtful they will follow that for irs in this regard. >> interesting. thanks so much, jonathan turley law professor george washing...

Demanding that holder be fired or step down. jim johnson is in washington. this hearing is expected to get under way 1:00 p.m. eastern time. i believe americans will have lots of questions for mr. holder. >> republicans on the committee are expected to ask tough pointed questions. democrats seem less ener guidgu. -- energized. being targeted by the groups by the irs under federal investigation, one question is what a government source could be charged with. one source told us, if they disclosed facts related to the irs targeting, they could have exposure over oen any false statement, it would ...

Department in particular that are consistent with what i think the president campaigned on and what we promised at the beginning of this administration. >> but holder is a busy man these days. he has now launched a criminal investigation into the irs. as you know, irs employees have for the past 18 months targeted conservative groups with the words tea party or patriots in their names. as a result, applications for their tax-exempt status were delayed. a new treasury department report put it this way. quote, the irs inspector general found that irs agents used inappropriate criteria to identif...

Good morning, thank you so much for being with me. i'm carol costello, reit now, we will go to capitol hill where any minute now john boehner will speak in front of the cameras at the house leadership conference. our chief correspondent dana baschuck joins me from washington. he will probably talk benghazi, the irs, spying on the a.p., perhaps a host of other things as well, dana. >> reporter: that's right. if you take a look at the big sign behind the podium "solutions for american jobs," i am told by a source that is what he is going to talk about. republicans are certainly licking their cho...

18 usc 1001. this is the statute the favorite of federal prosecutors, particularly in washington. it's the actual provision that most of the big scandals end up being fought on. that is simply lying to investigators. as you know, it is often the problem not what you did but how you responded to it in washington and what happens is that people will lie when they're first confronted by federal investigators. each of those lies can be charged as a crime. so that would be the most likely course. but it's not clear this is the type of case that would generate those types of charges. >> something i ...