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This happen. i don't know if it could be something as simple as a training issue. this is really disheartening. >> lisa: especially the fact that we have ten sailors missing right now. we pray we can find them. god only knows what happened. they are doing a review, so i think it's important to not get too ahead of ourselves in what happened. i think we need to see what happens and then there might be potentially a role for congress to look into it as well depending on what the investigation turns up. is it a budgetary issue? a lack of training? what is this? what role do you think congress mig...

Chest, and he is standing there motionless. i thought i wonder if is he on pcp. >> why did that cross your mind first? >> because it was odd behavior, zombie-like is the best i can -- zombie like. brian: he did have pcp in his system. does that mean anything to you? >> not necessarily so. obviously if a person is high off of a drug like. cp they have this enormous amount of strength. again as police officers, brian, we are challenged and we are given the responsibility to use the right amount of prescription in effecting annual arrest. when i first look at the video. i'm thinking this is a tra...

That's somewhat suspect. here's the thing we also have to remember in all of this. >> ten seconds. >> training issue and policy. how we train and how we enact policies with police officers. if this is the case, appears to be poor training and brings up issues about policies inside of that agency. these things have to be addressed but slager is going to have a challenging time trying to convince that jury. >> have to leave it. >> don, if i might. best case justifying body cameras on every cop. without that cell phone video, would have been a different story. >> thank you gentlemen. that's it fo...

Of this area. they've got some of the best equipment. they've got the manpower issue, training issue like a lot of major cities around the world do. the investigation is going to focus probably beginning on the 20th floor where we have the reports that that's where the fire initially broke out. you'll always go to where you got good intel to try to see what happened. then the investigation is going to extend to the fire itself and how it was able to extend so dynamically, so rapidly up the side of the building. and we've been talking online, myself and the other fire chiefs around america abou...

Those smaller police departments? >> generally speak, and i'm really speaking generally, yes, it is. but there is a training issue that is occurring throughout the nation. i've said this before, that until we get to the point where we're willing to -- where we demand that there are national professional standards for policing and there are certain things that will occur across the board, we'll always be faced with these conflicts of technical terms and conflict of procedural issues, et cetera. we need national professional standards for policing. other professions have national standards. law ...