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Kelly, please stay safe while you're on the ground there. joining me now to get a better sense of why the training mission never succeeded, i have mike jason a retired army colonel. he just wrote a piece in "the atlantic" about his assessment of the training of afghan forces. i appreciate you spending a little time with us. look, you basically make the case here that, you know, you used the phrase "when we went through the training process we checked a box." okay, it's clear our training didn't work. why? thank you for having me so i could talk about the last two decades of effort. i think you...

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In florida where he was doing aviation training. natasha chen is live in pensacola. what are we learning about the shooter? >> reporter: well, jake, a couple of law enforcement sources are telling cnn that the shooter has been identified as saudi national mohamed al sham ranee a member of the military training here in pensacola as part of partnership with the united states. captain tim cancela explained that he was part of an aviation pipeline but would not elaborate into how far along in the training process the person had gone. he is one of a couple of hundred foreign nationals training here...

>> yes, i am, stephanie. >> i know you're in communication this morning with other people very near by in the region, what else have you learned in the last few minutes? >> much the same as we talked earlier. owe know, our mutual aid agreements are in play. the local government, the sheriff's office, the fire department, the ems, all standing by the navy. the navy remains primacy. but as we transition through the event, you know, we'll continue to provide assistance on the investigation, provide assistance with grief counselling for those affected by the event. unfortunately these things happe...

Efforts to work in partnership with those offices. i didn't deal with mr. shokin directly but i did deal with some of his underlings as part of the training process. it was our sense generally speaking he was not helpful at all to the u.s. and our international partners efforts to weed out systemic corruption in ukraine. >> i ask that question, because in the july 25 phone call the president famously said that shokin was treated badly and was a very fair person. it doesn't sound like that comports with your assessment while there? >> yes. you'd have to ask what he's basing his assessment on. m...