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And government. do you think your candidate should focus more on -- more on the long game, and do you think it hurts him that republican voters think of government when they think of newt gingrich? >> it depends on what kind of government. he's the only person on stage with that kind of washington experience. this oddity about wanting an outsider to come and transform washington, the job the president of the united states is in washington and this idea that he can parachute in and transform the place is a bit nieve. the other thing is, i saw the word conservative popped up. that helps me. he's...

You think this is going to impact your political future? >> haven't real thought about it. what i do know is that. that in your state, there are many kids who live in households that are headed by gay parents. and they deserve the same equal protection under the law as every child in every other home. we all want the same thing. that's the common ground. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. joining me now is washington governor. great to have you back on with me again and you have made some fast time in the last time we got to speak because your bill in washington state has passed a major hurdl...

Congressman, eric cantor, thanks for being with us. >> good to be on. >> there is just this split in washington, d.c. i mean, it's a system that our founders set up. >> i think that what we're going to see in the next nine months really, joe, some stuff done on the margins. the big core issues. it's very, very unlikely to get that done because that's all about the fall quite honestly. and i'm very interested in the worker training program because that's a big issue across the country from the ground up and the bottom down. community colleges, i've been saying if you can invest in them, go long...

But at the end of the day, it's not going to transform washington. >> it was rhetorical -- rhetorically, it was a great speech. if you can start a speech by saying i killed osama bin laden, ended the war in iraq, and saved gm -- all true on his watch. but as you said, when he talks about unity and getting things done this year, that defies the reality of what's happened for the last three years. why should this year all of a sudden let alone in an election year are we going to tackle these big issues now? >> that's what's brilliant. he's an incumbent running on change. and getting back to the ...

And, look, joe, the bottom line is overall, this economy could be doing a lot better. and the reason why we're not doing better is the policies that have been promoted by this president and the white house haven't worked. and what our point is as we continue to try and focus on the issue of economy and jobs is we've got to try something different. i think most people when they determine something doesn't work, they try something different. and instead of focusing on new programs out of washington, on new things this government can do, why don't we focus on the private sector and growing small ...