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>> well, stuart, one of the reasons i am a strong proponent of ditching our entire tax system, getting rid of the irs, having a plat tax but a tax -- flat tax but a tax on consumption rather than income is one thing you do is you bring the capital back, and the numbers are closer probably to $11 trillion. globally $21 trillion. due are do you think it would goose the economy to bring several trillion dollars into the u.s. economy for investment? which could happen if it weren't being taxed. >> slightly unrealistic to just sweep your hand and say, get rid of the irs, get rid of those deductions...

Nypd chief bill bratton said the beauty of the consent decree is you have no choice but to comply with it. a department gets a list of changes and a federal monitor that watches over the department for years. over 20 police departments have been placed under consent decrees decrees. it ends up making the department better. the lapd spent 20 years under a decree. public satisfaction is up and crime is down. transformational change is always hard especially in the tight-end nature of the relationship with police.

Powerful and adept at politics. >> having covered her since the mid-1980s, hillary has never gotten answer easy right ride from the media and she won't this time. the problem is she's establishment. politics as usual. the 19d 90s. this is an election where people crave change, transformational change. unless she can show she can run a campaign completely differently -- >> but if it's bush versus hillary -- >> doesn't take it away. >> i disagree. >> that's the one knock -- there's a bunch of knocks you hear about hillary. one is, she's tiered. >> i think hillary has to show if she runs for pres...

Have had stagnation in congress. >> do you believe the democrats have lost the election? and will it send a message to voters? >> i think the message is doing nothing is a failure. so doing nothing -- doing nothing over the last year was a failure for democrats, but he is rising in the polls. he's at a one or two-year high now in the polls because the president is taking action on issues important in the country. >> let me just say something to you, ron because you're the really negative person on this, although i just say, as i hear in this conversation, i'm beginning to agree with you. look ...

Got re-elected. so you know, i think the president -- >> he didn't have the position that he could do it on his own without congress. >> i think the president should work with congress on things they can work together. i don't think this election means he should ignore everything he was elected on. just a few years ago. but i think that we can find -- there should be areas where you can find meaningful -- meaningful you know where they can sit together and get some decisions done. i think the issue is here on immigration, on infrastructure there are areas where the republican party in the past...