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Rebel group. it is described as a hub, transit point for terrorists. heather: we will be back after this, stay with us.

Were more messages about reclaiming the stake to this territory as a muslim land. and then also the social media post that i mentioned in july. and within the report of the warning by the cia. i would offer you just the idea, because it has often been true in other cases, which is that if a terror group is using a port city as a transit point, they are very reluctant to launch attacks in that area, because they want to preserve it as a way to move the people, move weapons, and to move money. they do not want to attract unnecessary attention. but i think that you are really onto something here....

Police checkpoint. your initial reaction. >> well, the first point, really, for your own viewers is that we don't have all the pieces. we don't have all the information. there are many gaps. we have to be very cautious about when we speculate about both the identity of the perpetrators and the number of the perpetrators. the story is still really evolving. point one. point two, brooke, what's really amazes me about spain and barcelona, in the past four years, since the spectacular rise of isis, spain and barcelona have not been prioritized by either isis, rather britain and france and the unit...

It seems like old policy of not necessarily live and let live, but where isis didn't want to upset the place where it was using so conveniently as a transit point that policy seems to be over, and perhaps there is an open war now between turkey and isis. >> and would it be pretty easy for this guy to escape the dragnet? there was more than one person involved though also, correct? >> well, they believe there was one shooter, ogunman, this suspect, who is at large. the question is, did he have help, and if you look back at all the isis attacks from the b bataclan attack to brussels there was a ...

Domestic or for violence. in this case, yes, we he should have apexpectation that when we go to a small that we're safe.s have apexpectation that when we go to a small that we're safe. police did best they could. the mayor says we will take lessons learned from what has happened in new jersey, but here is the lesson learned. we need to have a very strong and visual police presence in these malls. the may bar bury is gone. >> we understand at port authority, it's a transit point. and there are concerns about terror, et cetera. but malls? >> that's what we've come to. it shouldn't be happening, ...