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I mentioned, december 29th. ken, this is for you. ms. mcfarlen e-mailed another transition advisor. saying, sanctions announced hours before the administration in retaliation were aimed at discrediting mr. trump's victory. the sanctions could also make it much harder for mr. trump to ease tensions with russia, which has just throne the u.s. election to him. so everyone, ken, wants to know what she meant by that. what do you think? had just thrown the u.s. election to him? >> you know, i think we're going to be seeing a lot more from ms. mcfarlen -- ms. not mr. and in the transition period, the...

Basically decimating our intelligence and diplomatic capabilities there. so, you know, there were costs to this. >> i remember being on the air ken, and you know why i remember it? because i was doing the new day program filling in for chris cuomo, and every single guest i had was saying one at a time. this is unbelievable. this is unprecedented. we're supposed to have one administration at a time. the incoming administration is interfering with current u.s. policy. and i remember those arguments so vividly on the air. and again, on that -- this is on that same day that i had mentioned, decemb...

Themselves as a separate country. >> cnn reporting that a trump transition advisor who supports the independence who's involved or at least in the past helped facilitate it. which it is not a impartial state department employee. what do you make of that potential involvement? >> i think ivan is exactly right. this is very thorny territory. china believes taiwan is a protons. province. this would be one of the largest shifts in foreign policy in decades. and you hope it would have been thought through. would have gotten everybody in the united states government on board, we understand what it i...

Diplomatic meeting, i think shows a very strong signal not to -- not just to japan but to the pacific rim in general. >> interesting you used landlord/tenant analogy. donald trump knows a lot about that. >> yes. >> thank you for joining us. coming up, fear and anger as a trump transition advisor raised the idea of setting up a registry for people coming to the united states from high-risk areas, as they defined them, mostly muslim majority countries. plus, is donald trump ready to follow through on his campaign suggestion that a nuclear-armed japan potentially could help deter north korea?...

Where that would be one of the going philosophies. it was not. >> reporter: and new concerns over conflict of interest are emerging with trump considering seeking top security clearance for his adult children and son-in-law according to a transition team source. >> we'll be in new york and we'll take care of the business. >> reporter: no paperwork has been filed, but the children could have access to secure communications technology, travel schedules and secret service procedures. meanwhile, trump and russian president vladimir putin speaking by phone. the two men discussing the need for joint...