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Running the golf. what the hell does jared kushner have in his background that justifies him calling world leaders one at a time, including russia, and telling them how to vote on an egyptian resolution before the security council? i mean -- and then you find out this guy knows nothing -- he may have an attitude, a position about israel. he a's got no foreign policy experience or anything. he carries water for nobody in the american people. handy is out there deciding this stuff on a world stage because he's the son-in-law. >> well, if you want to be generous -- >> it's a joke. >> yeah. but if...

Transition duties. one explanation put forward was that he was meeting people regarding business. >> the white house position was this was a diplomatic meeting. kushner was acting in a diplomatic way. they said the bank was if i recalling up the business contacts in the u.s. the bank is under sanctions so americans forbidden from doing business with the bank. so it raises questions, did the bank believe sanctions were about to be lifted? did jared kushner discuss this with the bank? that's something they will want to ask him. did the issue of real estate empire come up? was there any discussio...

Jared was just conducting normal transition duties, yet the veb says they were discussing real estate business. real estate business, jared kushner's family is in real estate, and as we learned from bloomberg this morning they're in need of a loan. >> interesting. >> we know that jared, his family was trying to raise money in china with the visa kind of investments. he's got a huge problem at 666 fifth avenue. he's lost control of the building because of the amount of money he took on the loans he took on trying to refinance and redevelop the site, tear down this huge skyscraper on fifth avenu...

He was meeting -- kushner was meeting with the banker as part of his transition duties to reach out to foreign diplomats and representatives. the bank, as quoted in a very important "washington post" story today, said it was business purposes, that they were meeting with kushner as the head of his real estate company, his family real estate company. well, it would be impossible for kushner to do -- kushner's company to do business with this bank unless sanctions are lifted, because it's a sanctioned bank. so it does -- it is a pretty critical question, you heard sean spicer not answer question...

Sanctions for almost three years. >> i would think so. as they say, everybody knows the russian banks, a lot of them, are very closely aligned with the russian government. i cannot imagine how anyone high up in the transition team with the president would go and meet with these russian banks without finding out everything they can about them before. there's something going on here. i have no idea what it is. i just hope he answers the questions truthfully and we can get to the bottom of it and move on. >> this is your beat, kate. what do you make of the conflicting explanations we're getting f...