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There's more detail on what the additional sanctions would look like. you know it is a federal holiday and you wouldn't have known that earlier when he saw the when the, the chf and based on the conversations that i'm having with people here it's all hands on deck and i think that this is in many ways what they were anticipating. >> reporter: i know you would love to be a fly on the wall in the situation swaying room, wouldn't you? >> and i yeah, let me go to you as you're double duty and ainge orring our escalations through the dog by talk will about whose trapping it. they are proud of the n...

Now taken it to the next level. he's formally recognized it, giving it some level of protection from -- from the kremlin, from putin personally, and if that region continues to be under attack as they claim, then i think you can probably see russia moving in to defend it, and then once it moves in to defend, it it starts taking new territory, well, then, all bets -- all bets are off, and then once russian troops have crossed over that bummer into ukranian-controlled territory, then you're talking about an actual invasion, a conquest of new territory. >> peter, you mentioned what we heard from ...

About sanctions, about the unity of sanctions. i think this is really going to test the unity nato, the unity of those who have been standing with ukraine because it is not full-scale invasion that people have been talking about that may still be coming, but right now in ukraine the lights are still on and the phones are still working. i see you pulled up that map and that's a very important map to understand where we are right now. in the south the map crimea, crimea was part of ukraine until 2014 when vladimir putin took it over, held a referendum that many people described as a sham and for...

Speech. you're showing crimea, so in 2014, and it's important to understand the sequence of events here because this is the way putin sees this. he saw the breakaway of this country as a personal affront to him, a personal failure from his perspective, something that happened on his watch that he want to correct n.2014 ukraine renounced putinism. it renounced its soviet union past and decided to make a break for the west and embrace democracy. embrace the euro -- the european union, and the united states supported that, and he believes that this was all a coup, that this was a plot, that the u...

Even a four star ranking in the state department in diplomacy and at the height of the cold war he was very important as things involved. very familiar with vladimir putin and russian intelligence and a number of people in important posts now in place that are very experienced in ukraine and john sullivan, a holdover, has been dealing very well with this, the trump ambassador who had been a deputy secretary of state. at the same time they haven't had any ambassadors in any of the european countriesch got the ambassador to germany last week driving to munich at the very last minute, the same da...