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Will give him a travel document to come back to the united states. of course, to be arrested, but they are not taking away his citizenship. >> he's still a united states citizen, so he isn't stateless. fair point, jill. christiane, thanks to you as well. officials in arizona, they have just released the names of those 19 firefighters killed in a single blaze. the investigation is only just beginning to how they perished last night in a wildfire northwest of phoenix. it's still raging out of control right now. we're standing by, by the way, for a news conference by state and local officials t...

Its own strange reasons wants to give him a document, physically, how did they get to it hong kong? a passport is a piece of paper. it exists. it's a document. it isn't some e-mail. how do they get it to him and who's paying for the trips he's taking basically around the world here? third, where do you think he's going to end up? >> it seems ecuador is working with wikileaks. they are harboring julian assange in the embassy in london. so it seems to me if they're working with wikileaks, they may want to get some sort of travel document to snowden, if he is stuck in the moscow airport right now...

Experience in terms of actually getting asylum from ecuador. what we know is the foreign minister said they have received snowden's application for asylum and considering it at this point. they have not granted it yet. it's something they are considering. we know apparently, according to assange that ecuador issued a travel document to snowden. it's not clear whether or not this is the document he used instead of his u.s. passport that was revoked on saturday. >> watching the story. we'll have a lot more in the coming hours. we'll devote the full 6:00 p.m. eastern hour later today to this glob...

Taking basically around the world here? third, where do you think he's going to end up? >> it seems ecuador is working with wikileaks. they are harboring julian assange in the embassy in london. so it seems to me if they're working with wikileaks, they may want to get some sort of travel document to snowden, if he is stuck in the moscow airport right now, they probably can find someone at the embassy, somebody to do that. you know, wikileaks does have some financial backers. i'm not sure we know who they are, but clearly they're using some of their funds. michael rattner who works for the cent...

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