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Robots. >> laura: well, that is leadership for you, joe. i think a lot of people watching goodale said this is what a leader is required to do is step up at a time like this and give people a sense that that kind of travesty doesn't happen again. i happen to be a big saints fan, but it doesn't matter. that is about right and wrong in football. what are your thoughts on this? >> joe: it was deathly wrong. it was egregious. as a matter of fact there is a pass interference and helmet to helmet. but in the playoffs, they let him play a little bit more. i really believe they should. in this case, i...