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Calls from milley were even getting close to treasonous. what does that do, though, to the, i don't know, backlash really that milley has been facing over the details of this book as they were coming out in the last week? >> reporter: well, there are a couple kinds of backlash, kate. the treason talk, which is i think most people consider nonsensical, comes from donald trump and people close to donald trump. there's a separate discussion among people who are concerned about how the united states civilian leadership relates to the u.s. military who are concerned that milley was overstepping his...

You think he might go in a corner but instead he is out there doubling down. >> ed, what really bothers me about that i have to tell you, i think that sound there is even worse than his treason talk. spill into the streets? are you serious? this is a constitutional republic. okay. we do our damage in the voting booth. we don't spill it into the streets and start attacking our neighbors. this is not a violent country. we don't do that why would you even say something like that? keep in mind, when this guy talks about division, ed, we are talking about the same guy who was the puppet master for ...

>> it's not i don't trust the security. donald trump doesn't trust them. we know revealed to them highly classified information. here's what i would say. i applaud the steps that congress is taking to try and possibly increase sanctions. i think they should pass the bill to protect special counsel bob mueller. we have to really hold the president and his administration accountable for the fact that they are really bending over backwards to appease the russians now. >> i don't know how people can say that, i've been very honest and transparent. i think the president did himself disservice durin...

Everybody. this was a big establishment stamp of approval. i don't know why we still need that. i don't think we need people like condoleezza rice coming out and saying trump is a patriot. i think everybody knows trump is a patriot. i think some people in the media that listen to this treason talk with russia still think this guy is some sort of trader. so maybe when they hear her say that, they think maybe he is. >> kimberly: you complain about people being negative, and now you're complaining about people being positive. >> jesse: i'm not complaining. i'm just pointing out the reality. >> ju...

I don't know why we still need that. i don't think we need people like condoleezza rice coming oun and saying trump is a patriot. i think everybody knows trump is a patriot. i think some people in the media that listen to this treason talk with russia still think this guy is some sort of trader. so maybe when they hear her say that, they think maybe he is. >> kimberly: you complain >> kimberly: you complain about people being negative, and now you're complaining about people being positive. >> jesse: i'm not complaining. i'm just pointing out the reality. >> juan: she's gracious, but i don't t...